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[Post about Nicki Minaj looking like Jinx on FB]

Person A: Racist.
Friend: Nope
Friend: I'm brown
Friend: Doesn't count, and Nicki Minaj looks like a fucking Jinx. She is 99% plastic and looks ridiculous
Person A: I'd still bang her
Friend: Of course you would.
Person B: I thought Jynx was made of ice and discarded hair, not plastic.
Me: Girls can be 99% plastic if they want. It's may not be something you'd do, but it's her choice.
Friend: Yeah it is, doesn't mean that I find it attractive, I would say the same thing about guy. I personally do not agree with plastic surgery unless it for something serious (such as some who has a mastectomy or some sort of serve burns or other bodily injury). Doesn't matter if it is on a woman or a man for me
Friend: Fake is fake
Person B: I think it's marvelous we live in a country where you can go to a doctor to get your face and breasts cut up and stuffed full of crap to make you pretty enough to distract from your terrible personality.
Me: Well, to say that's she's 99% plastic implies that she's, well 99% plastic. Last I checked, that's close to impossible to achieve. And in general, again, just because you aren't into plastic surgery doesn't mean you should shame people who choose to modify their bodies. It's borderline misogynistic, since people usually refer to women when discussing plastic surgery, and namely, boob jobs. If you aren't into plastic surgery, I'd look more into why people get plastic surgery. I daresay cosmetic plastic surgery would be less popular if we didn't have such strict beauty ideals, that women especially are supposed to aspire to. Society (& dudes) tell women that big breasts are sexy. So why are we shaming those who get plastic surgery, instead of talking about how societal beauty ideals are harmful and silly? If you don't like Nicki, that's totally cool. She's done some cultural appropriation that was shitty. But don't bash her appearance as a way of expressing that--just reinforces the idea that appearance=worth as a human being, and that's not okay. I dye my hair, just like she does. I'd wear a lot of her clothes. And I modify my body with tattoos and piercing. But somehow, my stuff is okay b/c it's "classy," and her's is somehow "tacky." Just something to think about. And hey, even if we didn't have these beauty norms, people are still free to do what they wish with their bodies & expression. Lots of things we do are fake/not natural. That doesn't mean it's inherently bad. It can be really fun, empowering, etc--and that's up to the individual doing it to decide--not the observer.
Friend: She has an awful personality though and mainly does all of this for attention. She has said before in interviews she got ALL of her surgery to get attention and to be famous. I understand what you are saying but it is unfair to just assume I am trying to be misogynistic. I simply do not like people give into ideas of beauty and what people want so easily. If she was like "I got all this surgery because I wanted to feel cool and different," then I would be totally behind her, but that wasn't the case she got it just because she was told it could her be famous. So comparing what you do to modify your body and what she does is not even on the same wavelength, one is a choice because you want strike out your own identity and one is a choice to simply make money and please society. I just don't think FB is the place to try making such bold statements. My friends know my stances on these things and on society and they know what I am trying to say when I say comments like "99% plastic" and if this was public post for the entire FB population to see I would elaborated more or simply not shared this image. So again I understand what you are saying, and sorry I didn't make it more obvious what I was saying. I am not equating not natural to being Fake, I have tattoos as well, and I want to get piercings, I understand that on the surface these things are fake and not natural but they are part of my identity as a person. If people like Nick Minaj explained their choices to me like that and not just a way to make money then I would have more respect for them. I don't judge those I don't know the back/life story to, but for Nicki Minaj I at least know her decision for her "persona" and her surgery.
Person B: Ms. Minaj needed to do it because here appearance is a good she has to sell to the media. The attention and fame she got made her money. Other people may do it because you need to do whatever you can to make yourself comfortable with yourself. But still some others are just nuts, I think they're the minority.
Me: Meh, but she isn't obligated to explain her choices. And doing to be famous is still her choice, and it's okay to want attention. After all, she's not forcing people to give her attention or fame. She's benefiting from the system of beauty ideals. And really, what I do with my body and what she does with her is part of the same spectrum--we're just at different points. And I wasn't saying you're trying to be misogynistic, but I am letting you know, as a women who deals with these things, how your words come off. This is something I learn a lot about, and I'm sharing that knowledge. And hey, your posts aren't available to all of Facebook, but they are available to your friends--like me--and I'd hope that I could call you out on things that rub me the wrong way. Facebook isn't a magic bubble away from the "real world," and I treat words said on here just as I would words said in person. I'm not picking on you, promise, I'm genuinely taking the time to talk about this with you as sort of an educational moment on issues that I care about.
Friend: No I totally get that, just giving my side of things is all. No hard feelings either way. :)

I need to stop going on Facebook.

If you want to hate on famous people for shitty things they do, go ahead.

But don’t hate on them for how they look.

Talking about how a woman pop star is “99% plastic” in order to express that you don’t like her strikes me as misogynistic.

It’s similar to the “I like my women without makeup,” “women who like more bold fashion choices are insecure,” and the general shaming of women/people who dress/modify their bodies in a way that society views as lesser, tacky, or worthy of ridicule.

Here’s my response to it:

Well, to say that’s she’s 99% plastic implies that she’s, well 99% plastic. Last I checked, that’s close to impossible to achieve. And in general, again, just because you aren’t into plastic surgery doesn’t mean you should shame people who choose to modify their bodies. It’s borderline misogynistic, since people usually refer to women when discussing plastic surgery, and namely, boob jobs. If you aren’t into plastic surgery, I’d look more into why people get plastic surgery. I daresay cosmetic plastic surgery would be less popular if we didn’t have such strict beauty ideals, that women especially are supposed to aspire to. Society (& dudes) tell women that big breasts are sexy. So why are we shaming those who get plastic surgery, instead of talking about how societal beauty ideals are harmful and silly? If you don’t like Nicki, that’s totally cool. She’s done some cultural appropriation that was shitty. But don’t bash her appearance as a way of expressing that—just reinforces the idea that appearance=worth as a human being, and that’s not okay. I dye my hair, just like she does. I’d wear a lot of her clothes. And I modify my body with tattoos and piercing. But somehow, my stuff is okay b/c it’s “classy,” and her’s is somehow “tacky.” Just something to think about. And hey, even if we didn’t have these beauty norms, people are still free to do what they wish with their bodies & expression. Lots of things we do are fake/not natural. That doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad. It can be really fun, empowering, etc—and that’s up to the individual doing it to decide—not the observer.”

I am the Feminist Friend, ready to call you out on problematic shit 24/7 unapologetically, no batteries needed, because I’m a bad-ass human being.

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3 04.28.13

"(regarding calling out creepy dudes directly) The Creeper will feel bad and weird. They SHOULD feel bad and weird, because shit is bad and weird. Women are so socialized and trained to absorb other people’s badness and weirdness for them, that it’s going to be actively hard for you to NOT smooth things over. But don’t smooth things over. Let them be weird. Let them be AWFUL."

—Jennifer P, http://captainawkward.com/2012/08/07/322-323-my-friend-group-has-a-case-of-the-creepy-dude-how-do-we-clear-that-up/

Bless this whole article. It’s so hard to fight the urge to not smooth things over, but it is so empowering in doing so.

3 04.23.13

"Also, these “subtle social cues” we leave ain’t some weird code men are unable to understand. There’s been studies shown that men are perfectly capable of interpreting the wishes, needs and emotions of other people based on non-verbal cues and that, in fact, most of human communications between men, between women and between both together is made of non-verbal cues, body language, facial expressions etc.
Where men are failing is that they IGNORE women’s social cues, or treat them as unimportant, or override the cues they receive with their own assumptions and stereotypes and demands about women. They fail because they forget that we’re people."

tif-oh-two   2299 04.23.13

My “Intersectional Feminism 101” post for a philosophy group

[I realize it’s not all-encompassing, but I was time-crunched and unsure of what to include.]

Trigger warning: I may touch on or link to discussions about potentially triggering subjects.

I’ll start by saying that we could easily have different threads on different aspects regarding intersectional feminism. Perhaps we will be able to have threads talking about specific topics: queer issues, gender, imperialism, colonialism, academia, race, Western ideologies, food, ableism, dichotomies, patriarchy, rape culture, sex work, bodies/beauty, stigma around mental illness, violence, the World Bank/SAPs, tourism, mainstream vs alternative media, etc…the possibilities are so exciting! Historically, Western feminism hasn’t been the best at being intersectional, but current feminist dialogues focus heavily on the need for intersectionality. There’s a common phrase that goes around feminist circles: “feminism without intersectionality is worthless.”

I also apologize if it seems like I’m doing some kind of 101 approach, or if this seems too basic. For accessibility reasons, I usually try to approach conversations in this kind of way.  And this post will be very link-heavy—videos are articles by other people can say things better than I, especially when I’d like to talk about an issue that I have privilege in, such as race. Regarding the articles, videos, etc that I link to—some of them I take issue with, but I do think they are all worth reading in some respect.

It’s hard for me to bring up the feminist lens in non-Women and Gender Studies (WGS)/non-feminist/non-queer space, because I really have no idea where everyone else is at regarding what they know. It’s also difficult, because I have internalized concepts regarding my own identities and the importance (or perceived lack of) discussing the issues of marginalized groups. So basically, it’s constantly questioning if I’m just “making a fuss.” And yes, most, at least in “progressive” circles, people would assure me that I was not. However, this is where those micro, day to day, systems of power and inequality come into play. Drew (not to put you on the spot) may be able to speak more on privilege, and when to listen thoughtfully in order to let voices be heard that usually are not. That’s why it’s important to question our own privilege, and how the personal is political.

However, I do know that generally, feminism is seen as a focus on just white women. This is incorrect regarding the feminism that currently exists and being created. This isn’t to say that there aren’t feminist who aren’t so great at viewing things complexly, but largely, the trend is toward intersectionality.  And this also isn’t to say that white Western feminists all “get” intersectionality. We still have a long way to go, especially regarding “othering” and emphasizing Western feminist priorities in non-Western countries/communities.

Here are the two documentaries that I think are good to start with: Taking Root is available on Youtube, and highlights the downright amazing activist Wangari Maathai. It’s done extremely well, and I will never stop spewing out my love for the film and her. The other documentary, Born Into Brothels, is not to my knowledge available online. If you are able to find it, it’s an interesting film, especially looking at the ethics of Westerns making a film about the children of prostitutes in India, and if their involvement helped or hurt the kid’s lives. The criticisms section on the wiki pages mentions this as well. A really good third film is Live and Debt.

There’s also a debate about humanism being a better term than feminism, but that’d take a lot of time to delve into. Although, I’ll say that when we try to go “label-less” or do the whole “we’re all people” argument, dominant ideologies and structures remain in place, and eventually the same voices get silenced doubly—once by the existing power/privilege hierarchies, and again by ignoring said differences through the “people are people” rhetoric (which is often used in arguments arguing for colorblindness.) Hence why I identify as bi & queer, and why I identify as a feminist instead of humanist.

This is getting lengthy, so I’ll end it with some links to some good foundation information. I know I didn’t really get into any deep analysis, but I could write pages and pages exploring intersectional feminism. I’d more like to see what y’all have questions about, and go from there. I’m also open to talking about more personal experiences, as sometimes those are easier to relate to or understand, but if that is the case we may need to talk about thoughtful listening and unlearning how we subconsciously give some people the authority to tell the stories of those less privileged, but fail to give the less privileged person the authority to speak on their own experiences and avoid playing devil’s advocate just for argument’s sake. (I realize I linked to a business article, but it’s the only one I could find in my quick search that was applicable.)  

So here are some links that I’ll attempt to organize by topic.

Privilege:

http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-03-08_146

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/11/faq-what-is-male-privilege/

http://takesupspace.wordpress.com/cis-privilege-checklist/

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html  

http://grrrlpower.tumblr.com/post/7915660907/feminism-101-helpful-hints-for-dudes

Popular feminists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0HZaPkF6qE  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audre_Lorde

Readings:

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-feminist-summer-reading-list.html

http://shoreofmysoul.tumblr.com/post/14591414214/some-e-books-on-feminism-and-stuff-a-masterpost

Feminism & (pop)culture:

http://bechdeltest.com/

http://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story.html

Some foundational info/101’s:

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/the-faqs/faq-roundup

http://www.shakesville.com/2008/02/feminism-101-feminists-look-for-stuff.html

http://queerfeminism.com/what-is-queer-feminism/

http://bitchmagazine.org/article/everything-about-feminism

http://blackfeministsmanchester.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/racism-within-white-feminist-spaces/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteronormativity

(TW: rape) http://www.racialicious.com/2008/12/21/original-essay-the-not-rape-epidemic/ http://www.firsttheegg.com/have-i-ever-had-any-unwantedundesired-physical-or-sexual-contact/ http://www.shakesville.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Resources_for_men

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Feminism_101_discussions

Western/white feminism: http://www.studentpulse.com/articles/395/western-feminism-in-a-global-perspective

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/06/2012625121653638998.html

http://feminars.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/feminism-and-islam-the-problems-with-applying-western-feminist-values-to-non-western-cultures/

http://transnationalfeminist.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/beyond-borders/ (transnational feminism intro)

http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/margins-to-centre/2006-March/000794.html (the famous “Master’s tools” from Audre Lorde).

Terms/glossaries:

http://www.erinhoudini.com/transgender-glossary.html

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Feminism_101

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/faq-what-do-you-mean-by-not-my-nigel-feminist-abbreviationsjargon/

I apologize for the massive information I just threw together. I in no way expect anyone to click on all of the links. I’d suggest just clicking on whatever looks interesting and going from there!

—Sara

 

11 04.03.13
whoneedsfeminism:

I need feminism because…my brother justified abusing me by saying that I need to get used to the natural aggression of men…because as a woman it is my ‘duty’ to put up with it for the rest of my life. 

whoneedsfeminism:

I need feminism because…my brother justified abusing me by saying that I need to get used to the natural aggression of men…because as a woman it is my ‘duty’ to put up with it for the rest of my life. 

whoneedsfeminism   289 03.06.13

bemusedlybespectacled:

betweenshades:

…and people hate her?

That entire speech in the second row is just awesome. She’s just a brilliant person.

alianovnataliasoldblog   319432 03.04.13

"

If you’re a woman with an internet presence, you need skin as thick as a redwood trunk to deal with the barrage of insults and threats that you’ll unquestionably receive from misogynist trolls who want you to stop writing about topics that men also like to write about, or stop writing about feminism, or just stop writing, period. This has always been the case, but it’s not getting better for most women I know. In fact, it seems to be getting worse.

Ask any woman with an email address or commenter handle, from Anita Sarkeesian to any 12-year-old with a Formspring; I’ve never met a single one who wasn’t somehow affected by negative feedback that focused specifically on her gender, not her work. Women are edged out of practically every popular internet forum that isn’t specifically “for women,” from Reddit to the skeptic community. High school girls kill themselves because of cyber-bullying. Facebook refuses to delete photos glorifying rape culture even though they’ll censor, say, tribal women in Senegal or breastfeeding moms. For every Creepshots or “Is Anyone Up?” that finally gets shut down, another one pops up.

"

The Online Culture of ‘Niceness’ Doesn’t Extend to the Ladies

This is a response to this article (written by a dude, obviously) that claims that the Internet is getting “nice” all of a sudden.

Hahahahahaha

Hahahaha

Ha

No.

(via brute-reason)

Lol nice for white men who circle jerk each other. I’ve had so many try to run me and mines off not just for our gender but out race too. We aren’t allowed to exist and the pure hate and anger we receive shows that

(via strugglingtobeheard)

(via lipstick-feminists)

jezebel.com   5015 02.17.13

bemusedlybespectacled:

hardcandychristmas:

scifigrl47:

I have these little spikes of female rage sometimes.

I have these little moments of, ‘really, we still have to listen to this, really?’  They’re usually quick.  They’re usually gone fast. 

I do wonder, however, why it seems like every single male I follow thinks that the “Hawkeye Initiative” has gone ‘too far.’  I don’t want to point out posts, because I respect every single one of these guys.  And honestly, I wouldn’t be following them if I didn’t want them to follow me.  I like their views, they’re definately entitled to their opinions.  I don’t think any of them are being made ‘uncomfortable’ by the intent of the redraws.

But when as a group a rational, intelligent, fandom savy group of guys goes, “well, it’s defeating the purpose if you sexualize men instead of sexualizing women,” I kind of wonder what they’re seeing that I’m not.

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Can I just say:all of this right here.

Scifigrl47 is the fucking best.

scifigrl47   2129 02.16.13

"‘Slut-shaming’ isn’t about shaming ‘sluts’. It’s about misogyny. It’s about shutting women down. It’s about hating women. It’s about silencing. You can be labelled a ‘slut’ regardless of whether or not you have or like sex. Whether you’ve had one partner or fifty. It’s doesn’t matter. Just like women get called bitches regardless of their behaviour. Do we go around telling people not to ‘bitch-shame’ us? No, we say that men who call women bitches are sexist assholes who don’t like it when women speak (read: exist)."

feministcurrent.com   302 02.15.13

"What happens when men enter women’s feminist spaces? Dale Spender did an experiment to find out, and published the results in Man Made Language:
Present at the discussion, which was a workshop on sexism and education in London, were thirty-two women and five men. Apart from the fact that the tape revealed that the men talked for over 50 per cent of the time, it also revealed that what the men wanted to talk about – and the way in which they wanted to talk – was given precedence."

http://weirdward.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/time-for-a-timely-quote-or-no-more-what-about-teh-menz/ (via sisterresister)

definitely one reason a man-in-feminist space doesn’t necessarily have to be excluded, but HAS to be willing to take a back seat and listen rather than full-on participate.

(via feministdisney)

A couple of my lady friends recently inducted my boyfriend into our Skype feminist group because he said that he wanted to learn more about feminism. One of the stipulations was that he had to watch what he said, ask if he was being offensive, and listen more than talk, precisely for this reason. So far he’s doing really well, but most dudes I know would not. :/

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sisterresister   4123 02.14.13

Tumblr, let me tell you a little story about when I walked home today

hermitwithfriends:

It was late, it was dark, and I was fairly distracted by listening to 80’s music because it’s ridiculously catchy. 

Now, I rarely feel scared walking home in the dark. If that’s because I lack a self-preservation instinct or that I stubbornly chanted ‘strong independent woman’ to myself when I was 14, well, who knows?

Point is, I suddenly noticed a long shadow next to mine.

Surprised and unexpectedly terrified, I jump a little and turn around to see a buff guy walking close behind me. As my was simultaneously berating me for getting scared and planning exit routes, he simply stops, raises his hands and goes:

“I’m so sorry to scare you, I really didn’t mean to, excuse me.”

He then steps over to the other side of the road, gives me a quick smile, and keeps walking. I looked back a while later, only to see him crossing the road to step into a house on ‘my’ side.

So basically, this guy just stepped away and gave me space to make sure I felt safe, and waited long enough on the other side for me to have gotten far enough away not to be startled when he crossed again. It felt shockingly good to have a guy acknowledge that my fear response wasn’t ‘stupid’, because if he hadn’t I’d probably be bashing myself for the irrational fear that grabbed me. 

I’m not saying that all guys should do this or anything. I’m not even sure what I’m trying to say. It’s just been a while since I saw a guy outside tumblr who didn’t act like because they weren’t rapists, they had nothing to do with the issues of rape culture. Of course, I have no idea who this guy is, maybe he doesn’t know or care about these issues. But he cared enough to make an effort, and to not dismiss my response or blame me for it. To me, that’s something.

(via bemusedlybespectacled)

thenthwave:

In Canada, the city of Edmonton, Alberta, launched SAVE (Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton), a sexual assault awareness campaign that *gasp* doesn’t rely on victim-blaming messages! SAVE’s “Don’t Be That Guy” campaign features posters that call on potential assaulters to check their behavior. How refreshing.

Typically, sexual assault awareness campaigns target potential victims by urging women to restrict their behavior. Research is telling us that targeting the behavior of victims is not only ineffective, but also contributes to and increases self-blame in survivors. Instead, the SAVE campaigns targets potential offenders - ultimately the ones who hold the power and responsibility to end sexual assault.. By addressing sexual assault without victim-blaming, we intend to mark Edmonton on the map as a model for other cities. 

thenthwave:

In Canada, the city of Edmonton, Alberta, launched SAVE (Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton), a sexual assault awareness campaign that *gasp* doesn’t rely on victim-blaming messages! SAVE’s “Don’t Be That Guy” campaign features posters that call on potential assaulters to check their behavior.

How refreshing.


Typically, sexual assault awareness campaigns target potential victims by urging women to restrict their behavior. Research is telling us that targeting the behavior of victims is not only ineffective, but also contributes to and increases self-blame in survivors. Instead, the SAVE campaigns targets potential offenders - ultimately the ones who hold the power and responsibility to end sexual assault.. By addressing sexual assault without victim-blaming, we intend to mark Edmonton on the map as a model for other cities. 

thenthwave   28 02.06.13

"

Anger? EMOTION. Hate? EMOTION. Resorting to violence? EMOTIONAL OUTBURST. An irrational need to be correct when all the evidence is against you? Pretty sure that’s an emotion. Resorting to shouting really loudly when you don’t like the other person’s point of view? That’s called “being too emotional to engage in a rational discussion.”

Not only do I think men are at least as emotional as women, I think that these stereotypically male emotions are more damaging to rational dialogue than are stereotypically female emotions. A hurt, crying person can still listen, think, and speak. A shouting, angry person? That person is crapping all over meaningful discourse.

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rabbleprochoice   349 02.05.13

"[Parents should] recommend some books with female leads that your son would enjoy reading. If your next question is “Why?,” then ask your daughter why she liked Harry Potter. She might say it was a good story, great characters, and a fantastic world. Who cares if the main character was a boy? In fact, girls will pick up a book with a hero or heroine equally. According to my excellent librarian resources, boys will actively avoid books with a girl as the main character. What’s the problem? I have no idea. Why should you encourage your son to read books with heroines? That’s easy. You want your son to grow up knowing that a strong female for a friend, wife or boss is normal and good."

Rebecca Angel (via msandrogynous)

Actually, funny story about Harry Potter: I didn’t read it until I was ten because I didn’t want to read a book with a dude in it. :D

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msandrogynous   28485 01.25.13